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 03-10-2004, 13:49 Post: 79457
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 Jeep Liberty Diesel

I spotted this thread and would just caution you guys to think it through. About 10 yrs ago I bought a VW Quantum turbo diesel for the same reasons you cite. The gas alternative was the Audi 5 cyl shoehorned into the "big" VW (the Quantum was the biggest model they made back then). For some reason the european 4 cyl gas motor was not being imported. The good news was that I got 36-38 MPG until the day that I had it towed to the junkyard. The bad news was: pathetic acceleration, the need to coach the whole family on dosing the gas with anti-gel and/or kerosene in the winter and, finally, the ridiculous cost of an engine major when it needed one at 145,000 miles. I junked it instead. Nobody really wanted to work on the diesel. The dealer quoted a ridiculous price for a rebuilt motor - basically "get lost". No local mechanic wanted to touch the diesel.
With rumblings about a Chrysler/Daimler breakup again, my worry on the Jeep would be about future service on the engine.






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 03-12-2004, 11:27 Post: 79645
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Actually, I was kind of fond of the Quantum. You can't beat 36-38 MPG. My kids still have fun recollections of fueling at the truck stops in between the 18 wheelers and it only waxed up on me once. I am close to buying a diesel tractor right now. The Quantum had a lot of good miles left in it with maybe one tiny rust spot on the body, the nice VW alloy sport wheels and new rubber. The independent guy that I use for my German cars said flatly that he would slap a new head on it but nothing more. The VW dealer quoted me thousands for a rebuilt engine and then ushered me into the showroom and said "trading it really is the smart thing to do".

You are right - it's a different story in Europe. You see diesel Audis and Benz's all the time. We just need to get use to working on them over here. You can't beat the MPG.






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